If you act quickly, you might be able to upgrade your capabilies for recording lunar Leonids, and later, all occultations. The Watec 902H camera is highly recommended for recording lunar meteor impacts. Last night, I used it for the first time to image the 10% sunlit Moon's dark side, recording 4 reappearances of stars. It was fantastic, with incredible detail visible on the Earthlit dark side, and the 9th-mag. stars showing brilliantly, using my 8-inch Schmidt-Cass. and f6.3 focal reducing lens. The Watec camera will clearly be able to record lunar impacts about 2 magnitudes fainter than the PC-23C, and similar gains are obvious for lunar and asteroidal occultations as well. It has almost the same performance as my image-intensified system at a fraction of the cost; I bought my Watec 902H from Security Products International, Pottstown, PA (phone 610-970-5150) for $340 + $6.63 for shipping, but lower costs may be available elsewhere - see the end of this message, which also has some more information about operating the camera. The Watec 902H camera is made in Japan and widely used by observers there. Contact information is available at http://www.watec.com but that is for the American division in Las Vegas; you can e-mail them at watec@watec.com to perhaps ask them about dealers selling the camera in other countries (you might also check with security camera and telescope dealers in your country). With my telescope, it will make it possible to observe grazes of 9th and probably even 10th-mag. stars during the crescent phases, giving more opportunities to observe these events closer to home. It is also HIGHLY recommended for asteroidal occultations, making it possible to videorecord many more of these events than with the PC- 23C. Visual observations of asteroidal occultations, especially of fainter stars, suffer greatly from always larger-than-reported reaction times which always complicates the analysis of those events; removing the "personal equation" greatly increases the value of those observations. The larger area as well as the sensitivity helps considerably in finding the target star. Visual observations of asteroidal occultations are not useless, and are encouraged at least to help define the path limits, but video timings are better. Also useful, if you have a Schmidt-Cass. telescope, for inceasing the area of the Moon imaged, is a focal-reducing lens; this also helps for asteroidal occultations (larger field of view) and lunar occultation reappearances. The f6.3 focal reducer is available in the range of $125 to $140 or so from many telescope dealers. Probably even better, for a larger field of view to image virtually all of the Moon's dark side, is the Meade Series 4000 CCD f3.3 focal reducer available for $144.95 from Focus Camera, Inc. in Brooklyn, NY (phone orders 888-221-0828), and probably from some other Meade dealers. I just received mine today, and it fits my C-8 since Meade and Celestron backs are the same. I hope to try it out tonight and will send another message only if I have any problems with it. As mentioned in my message in early August, the Watec 902H is very small (32mm on a side) and operates essentially the same way as the common Supercircuits PC-23C (but it has just an RCA output rather than BNC video output, so you don't need a BNC-to-RCA adaptor) and is powered the same way, with 12V DC, with the same power cord available from Radio Shack - see details in the video information on the IOTA Web site at http://www.lunar-occultations.com/iota Don't through away your PC-23C since it's handy as a microphone/mixer to record sound (WWV); the Watec doesn't have a microphone. Frank Anet writes, and I concur (and add some more information): The standard high sensitivity setting on the WAT-902H is useless, as the noise background is very high, greatly reducing the dynamic range, and the sensitivity is no better than with the low setting. The cover on the back of the camera needs to be removed (micro-size Phillips screws) to get to the ultra-micro switch to change the sensitivity to low (the camera is extremely small and light weight). On the low setting, the background noise for a dark scene is still greater than necessary (but much reduced from the high setting and certainly acceptable). I permanently set the sensitivity to low. When observing lunar occultations, it behaves in the same way as does the PC23C, so that the gain is reduced automatically if too much of the bright side of the moon is visible (or also if there is a lot of glare from the invisible bright limb). Like the PC23C, it has a switch to control the exposure time (either 1/60 second or automatic). For dark images, these two settings give the same results. The sensitivity is adjusted from high to low with a microswitch that can be reached only by taking off the back plate of the camera. Frank recommends a No. 00 Phillips screwdriver to remove these small screws; the screwdriver available in the "Radio Shack" kit works, according to one source. But I was able to remove the screws with a No. 0 Phillips screwdriver. With the back removed, the tiny white sensitivity microswitch (not labelled) is mounted on the right side of the right side card (looking down into the camera with the RCA video output jack up), about a 4th the size of the shutter on/off switch on the left side that is accessible through a hole in the back plate. The sensitivity microswitch comes in the up (high sensitivity) position; just use a small object, or your fingernail, to push it down). Then reattach the back plate (last night, I observed without the back plate on, wanting to know what would happen when I changed from high to low sensitivity, but after seeing the results, the much higher noise with high sensitivity, I'm going to keep it on the low setting). More about sources for the Watec 902H: Tony Cook wrote in Aug.: As for prices - I hunted around on the web. The price for the 902HS at the following site is claimed to be $350 but when I phoned up and asked they gave me a price of $320? and the 902H was under $300. (the 902H is recommended; tests show that the 902HS is noisier, but not really more sensitive for detecting stars, than the 902H). http://www.4spi.com/pages/pg1.html [this is the route I followed, but the "under $300" price doesn't seem to be available now. David] Frank Anet wrote earlier: I purchased a Watec video camera (WAT-902H) from Rock House Products International, 2 Low Avenue, Suite 205, Middletown, New York 10940, because of its "Ultra Low Light" ability and "Incredible Low Light Operation", as quoted on the Rock2000.com web site. The price was about $500, but that was several months ago; it is probably cheaper there now. _________________________________________________________________ David Dunham, IOTA, 2001 Nov. 12
The f3.3 focal reducing lens that I mentioned in my last message works fine with my C8; I just recorded the reappearance of 7.0-mag. ZC 1976 at only 5 deg. altitude above the eastern horizon. The horizontal width of the field of view is almost 25', enough to take in most of the Moon's dark side, and a little more of the area than I could record with the PC-23C on my C-5 with f6.3 focal reducer that I used for the 1999 lunar Leonids. And from down under, Stephen Russell writes about sources for the Watec 902H camera: Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2001 10:01:18 +1100 To: Joan and David DunhamFrom: Stephen Russell Subject: Re: Worldwide lunar Leonids; fantastic Watec 902H camera Hi David. I did a quick web search for the GW-902H camera, and found several places selling it for less than $300. $290 at http://www.genwaccameras.com/gw-902h.html $290 at http://www.securitynet.net/gw-902h__.html $289 at http://www.aegi.com/store/genwac_GW902H.html $290 at http://www.spysite.com/security_cameras.html $254 at http://www.fedcenter.com/fedsites/Unilux/HotProducts.htm That $254 price looks good. Good luck with the Leonids. Cheers, Steve. _________ Good luck with your observations! David Dunham, IOTA
Watec videocameras, first, message from Tony Cook: Joan and David Dunham wrote: Peter, Yes, the Watec cameras you mention are more sensitive than the PC-23C, not by a factor of 200, but they do seem to be more sensitive by more than 1.0 mag. I'm copying this to a couple of observers who have them. I plan to buy one soon myself. They don't have a microphone, but you can use your PC-23C for that. I went for the Watec 902-HS because of the claimed 0.00015Lux sensitivity, but can confirm that its unlikely to achieve this sensitivity because you get swamped by noise. Maybe if it was cooled down to -20C to -30C the thermal electron noise might be reduced, but I'd rather not try this. The Watec cameras are also more prone to cosmic ray events, but this is possibly because they are more sensitive than the PC23Cs. When folks ask me about the Watec camera I strongly suggest the Watec 902H, its slightly cheaper and there is no real gain in sensitivity due to the noise problem. The dip switches for the camera sensitivity are inside but there is a socket on the outside for electronic control of gain and expsoure etc. It does not have a microphone, but I feed the video output into my digital camcorder, and pipe audio from a S/W radio along a phono cable into the audio socket of the camcorder. Now for some good points about the Watec cameras. Despite the noise problem, I am pretty happy with what mine can do over my other PC23C camera. Firstly its got a larger imaging area 1/2" chip (watec) 1/3" chip PC23C so I can pick up more of the Moon - excellent for looking for lunar impact flashes. Secondly its a piece of cake to attain 10th mag occultations next to the Earthlit limb - actuallly any fainter and and you will have problems seeing the moment of occultation cause the Earthlit limb mag per pixel is something like this. Thirdly because of its near IR sensitivity, 11th or 12th mag K and M spectral type stars show up really strongly. Fourthly the difference between visibility of Earthlit features is on the PC23C you can sort of see the main seas, and a few bright craters, but with the Watec 902 camera you get to see a a much clearer picture. BTW I use a 8" f/5 Newtonian and have used both cameras at Newtonian focus to minimize glare problems - the PC23C gets me down to 8th mag definitely, the Watec goes clearly down to mag 10, and fainter in the case of red stars. Its also excellent for getting video spectra of stars brighter than mag 5 next to the Earthlit limb if you are into occultation spectroscopy. As for prices - I hunted around on the web. The price for the 902HS at the following site is claimed to be $350 but when I phoned up and asked they gave me a price of $320? and the 902H was under $300. http://www.4spi.com/pages/pg1.html Hope this helps? Some examples of 1/30sec exposure frames and averaged effective 1/10th sec exposures can be found on my FTP site: ftp://casper.nasm.edu/pub/incoming -- Dr Anthony C. Cook, Center for Earth and Planetary Studies, National Air and Space Museum, Smithsonian Institution, Washington D.C. 20560-0315. Fax. (USA) 202 786 2566 Tel. (USA) 202 633 9748 e-mail: tcook@n... - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - and from Frank Anet, fanet@e... David, Although I have mentioned to you that my Watec 902H is more sensitive than my PC 23C (Topica) camera, I don't think that I had sent you the correspondence that I had with a person at Watec in mid 1999. I sent Watec an e-mail message and got back a reply (given below), but I did not follow up the matter with them. However, it is clear to me after this correspondence and some messages by others in the VideoAstro List that the sensitivity claimed by Watec is not only useless, but also deceptive and perhaps even fraudulent (and they have not changed their claims). The Watec 902H does have very good sensitivity, in part due to the use of a 1/2 inch CCD sensor instead of the 1/3 inch one in the PC23C. This increases the area of the pixels and under certain conditions increases sensitivity. The larger detector area also gives a wider field of view and this makes observations generally more convenient. Watec have introduced a new and supposedly more sensitive version of the camera, the Watec 902HS. I bought one of these a year ago, but found that its ability to see weak stars was less than the Watec 902H by about 0.5 to 1 magnitude (the tests were done on several occasions by repeatedly switching the cameras on the telescope, a process that takes less than a minute). The video gain on the Watec 902HS (at High Gain, when its high sensitivity is supposed to occur) has been boosted to a ridiculous value, so that the dynamic range is very low and the background (camera amplifier) noise is extremely high. I use the Watex 902H at LOW sensitivity (it has switchable LOW and HIGH settings, accessible only by removing the back plate), but even then the gain is really too high by a factor of at least 3. This reduces the dynamic range, and is only of value if the output is sent to a (very cheap) video monitor that has no brightness and contrast control. The 902HS does have (difficultly accessible) controls of the gain, back light and exposure settings not present in the 902H, but I would recommend not getting this model (it now seems to have displaced the 902H on the Watec web site). The web site also features the Watec LCL-802H "camera board" which claims a "minimum illumination" of 0.0003 Lux (in flashing lights, for emphasis). This means that the camera can see under these conditions (but what they do not say is that this is provided the object, e.g., letters, are black and white, and no greys need to be distinguished). Under normal conditions, the best sensitivity of the Watec, in my experience, requires careful focusing and the use of a fairly short telescope focal length, preferably less than 100 cm. Just like the PC23C, the Watec 902H requires positioning the Moon during an occultation time measurement so that not too much light from the bright limb reaches the detector, otherwise the automatic gain control will reduce the gain drastically and prevent the more or less dim star from being visible. I hope that this is useful. Sorry for the long message! Frank Anet At 1:33 PM -0700 4/13/99, Frank Anet wrote: >To Watec technical Department: > >I purchased a Watec video camera (WAT-902H) from Rock House Products >International, 2 Low Avenue, Suite 205, Middletown, New York 10940, >because of its "Ultra Low Light" ability and "Incredible Low Light >Operation", as quoted on the Rock2000.com web site. > >The WAT-902H is advertised (e.g. on both the Rock2000.com and on the >Watec web site) as having a Minimum Illumination of 0.0003 lux-f1.4 >lens for AGC set to High and 0.002 lux-f1.4 lens for AGC set to Low. >These are amazing specifications since I have not seen any other >commercial video camera claiming better than a Minimum Illumination >of 0.01 lux with an f1.4 lens. > >However, this "incredible" low light performance is not what I get. >I find more like 0.006 lux-f1.4 lens with the AGC set to Low and >setting the AGC to high only amplifies both the signal and the >noise, so that dimmer object details cannot be resolved than at the >Low AGC setting. Thus, the performance is a bit better than the >Watec WAT902B camera, which has a 0.01 lux specification. But my >camera (serial number 00289) is clearly labeled as a WAT902H. > >I was attracted by the WAT902H specifications because I want to use >this camera for amateur astronomy (and I am sure many others would >want to do so if the specifications are correct). I have been using >a PC-23C camera (Taiwanese-made and labeled Topica on the camera >body; a 1/3 inch Sony CCD chip is claimed to be used in this camera) >sold by Supercircuits in Texas. The PC-23C has become very popular >with amateur astronomers, and it has a claimed Minimum Illumination >of 0.04 lux at f1.8, which corresponds to 0.024 lux f1.4. When I >tried the WAT902H with my telescope, just replacing the PC-23C (both >have CS lens threads), I got a little better result with the WAT902H >than with the PC-23C, but with a much higher background noise for >the 902H, and this made the comparison difficult. This test was done >with the factory setting of AGC, i.e., set to High. > >After some difficulty, I managed to undo the screws at the back of >the 902H (both a big camera and video store and a jeweler were >unable to remove the screws) and thus I will not need to send you >the camera back (I was given a repair number of 094). I finally >found and bought a tiny No 00 Phillips screw driver and it would be >nice if tool information, or an actual screw driver --not to mention >a tiny Allen wrench for the front lens adjustment-- were provided. >Also, why not make a small slot in the rear panel, which does not >seal hermetically anything inside, to allow external access to the >AGC switch? Even better, please, please, provide an external >continuous adjustment of the gain (is there any way I can modify the >camera to do this; I would be very interested even if it voids the >warranty, etc.). > >After setting the AGC to Low, the background noise level (no light) >was just a little greater than that from the PC-23C. I then used an >Ermitec 12.5 mm CCTV lens with focusing and iris controls (f1.3 to >f16) in a darkened room to observe printed matter with each camera, >switching back and forth several times. In both cases the image was >displayed on a large screen Pioneer color TV set (900 lines >resolution) with the brightness control set to maximum. With no >camera connected, the screen was black. With either camera connected >(no light), the screen had significant, but not overwhelming noise. >With each camera, I adjusted the lens iris down so that a given >feature of the object was just discernible. I thus found that the >WAT902H was just under 2 stops more sensitive than the PC-23C (e.g., >with the WAT902H, I could make out features at f11 that required >more light with the PC-23C, so that even f8 with the PC-23C was >worse and only at f 5.6 was the PC-23C very slightly better than the >WAT902H). A two-stop difference is a factor of 4 in light intensity, >so, using the PC-23C as a reference, I calculate the light >sensitivity of the WAT902H at AGC set either High or Low as 0.006. >For this to be 0.002, the PC-23C would need to be three times more >sensitive than claimed, or for my testing to in error by a factor of >three (I could be off by 50%, but I doubt very much that I could be >in error by 300%). Maybe the standard way of measuring Minimum >Illumination gives the numbers that are quoted for the 902H camera, >but if so these numbers are completely misleading for the users of >the cameras, as I see it, and as I am sure most other users would >see it. Clearly, a specification of 0.0003 lux-f1.4 at AGC-Hi is 20 >times more sensitive than it really is, in my view. The WAT902H does >have a fantastic sensitivity of course, but unfortunately, not what >is claimed. > >Please indicate if I am wrong. I would appreciate learning how you >measure the Minimum Illumination (or a reference to the method you >use). At 12:19 PM -0700 4/19/99, Watec America Corp wrote: > >Thank you for your e-mail. >In security/ Surveillance industry there is no standard >how to decide minimum illumination while TV industry >tells minimum illumination is at point 50% of 100IRE >i.e. 50IRE is obtained on white section. >Therefore in this industry manufacturers decided by >human eye it by using chart. >When it becomes impossible to identify black and white >on chart it is minimum illumination. This figure can be >different between manufacturers. >We would appreciate learning how you measure the >minimum illumination. >Best Regards, >S. Yamaguchi ______________________________________________________________
I purchased a Watec 902H camera and received it last Friday. Last night, it was clear here, but there was a full Moon. The camera performed rather well, just detecting 10th-mag. stars with an f/6.3 focal reducing lens on my C-5. The wider field and greater sensitivity gives the camera a big advantage over the less expensive Supercircuits PC-23C for recording and finding medium-brightness stars for asteroidal occultations. The camera is considerably smaller than the PC-23C, being cubical about an inch on a side. However, the camera is quite noisy, considerably more than the PC-23C. Mine also has about half a dozen hot pixels that look like the faintest stars, but I can tell them from the stars because they don't move like the stars, and stars usually illuminate a few pixels. I have not tried to open the back of the camera, as Frank Anet described in his message about the camera that I distributed to the IOTAoccultation e-group list on Aug. 5. I didn't distribute that message to the AstroAlert list then, so I'll do that after sending this message. Frank, you mentioned finding and buying the small screwdriver needed to open the back to set to the recommended lower sensitivity to reduce the noise. Were you able to buy it at an ordinary local hardware store? In spite of the noise, I'm happy with the larger area and approximately 1.5-mag. gain over the PC-23C, and look forward to using it for dark-limb lunar events during the crescent phases. David
David, The (thin aluminum) back plate of the Watec 902H camera is held by four very small screws, one at each corner. These steel screws appear to be self-threading and apparently were inserted into unthreaded holes in the (aluminum) body of the camera during manufacture, as far as I can tell. This is an inexpensive method, compared to using threaded holes and normal threaded screws and ensures that the screws do not fall out because of vibrations. BUT, the first time you try to remove these screws may not be very easy. A properly sized Philips screw driver (a #00) helps. #2 and #1 Philips screw drivers are ubiquitous, but the #0 (the next smaller size) are much less common, and #00 are rare, but can occasionally be found in some local hardware stores (#000 also exist, but I have never seen one!). MacMaster-Carr has them. You might try Sears. Just insist that you want a #00 and nothing else. Doing a web search with Google (my favorite search engine, www.google.com) for "Phillips #00 screw driver" provides useful information (including a tip from a camera-repair tool seller that threaded camera and lens screws are sometimes sealed with Loctite, and that trying to remove such screws breaks either the screw or the screw driver, unless acetone is applied first). Even with the proper screw driver, one needs to grab the Watec camera firmly and apply a fair amount of force to the screw driver as it is being turned, so that the screw driver head does not slip and ruin the screw head. Once the screw has been removed and put back, subsequent removals are much easier. The Low-High gain switch is a minute rectangular slide switch and it is fairly stiff and does not tend to move because of vibrations. Moving the switch is best done with a something like the end of a pair of tweezers. Make sure that the slide is fully on one side or the other. In my opinion, the camera should never be used with the High gain setting (the factory default), as sensitivity is not gained and dynamic range is lost. Concerning the hot pixels, I also have about a half dozen in my 902H. When the camera was new, there were none. Sometime after hot pixels gradually appeared, my camera went dead and I returned it to Watec, who fixed it free of charge. The returned camera, which may have been a replacement camera, had no hot pixels initially, but hot pixels gradually returned. The hot pixels are barely visible when viewing a scene in normal light, and have never interfered with astronomical occultation use, although they are esthetically quite unpleasing. Frank Anet